I am glad to have the opportunity to share with you a guest post by Joe (Ojo) Taylor. I grew up listening to Ojo's band, Undercover, and I appreciate his present insights on religion. He left the life of faith a few years ago and his path is one to which many of us can relate. Joe is a professor in the music department at James Madison University. More of his excellent writing can be found at Ojo Taylor - Lovism. Music. Freethought.
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I felt like I had lost my best friend. Some of my friends had told me the same thing
happened to them when they went through it.
It didn’t stop me though. I knew
what I had to do and there comes a point where enough is enough. I rolled down
the window and felt the instant blast of the desert heat somewhere between
Baker, CA and the Nevada border on the way to Las Vegas with my band mates to
celebrate a birthday weekend and simply threw my cigarettes out. I hadn’t planned it, but I had reached
bottom. I had been waking up with my throat hurting, raw and gritty. I had fears that I was surely headed towards
one of those tricorder-looking things that smokers have to hold up to their
throats to talk after they’ve had their vocal chords cut out. I had had other such tantrum moments where I
tried to quit but this one stuck and I have not inhaled anything since May 4,
1990. For a while it truly was like
mourning.
“God, please forgive
me while I work through this, while I work through these irritating but
persistent sticky questions that have a direct impact on whether you can even really
exist or not.”
Dismissing faith was like losing a best friend all over
again. I had had practice. My prayer was sincere, even as I knew it was
completely absurd right at that moment too.
If God isn't real, then there is no there there, and if God is real, I felt I probably needed to be
terrified. He was slipping away at an
intellectual level (significant because the bible makes a great number of
claims about the world and time-space events that should be verifiable), not at
an emotional level (I was not bitter, disenchanted, empty, or anything like
that). The sense of attachment to all
things Christian, including the fear of the consequences of heresy was still
potent. There comes a time though when
you have to do what you have to do and in the same way I realized that
cigarettes were not any kind of friend at all, neither was a God I had to fear
while sincerely working through difficult questions and doubts. For the first
time I was able to look that fear right back in the face and cut myself some
slack anyway, even if God could not. I
was still afraid and still felt like I had lost some kind of tether – to
something, I’m not sure what, but a tether, a lifeline, an anchor, or perhaps a
best friend. Any number of metaphors might work.
When I consider reactions to my dismissal of faith, I first
have to remember my own reaction, and it was a reaction. I was very much an observer of my own process
as much as a participant. None of it was
easy. I was eventually able to consider
the idea that, “I may just be an
unbeliever,” (although I felt I could never adopt the label of “atheist”). What was it like to be an unbeliever, maybe an
atheist whether I wanted to be one or not, as outrageous an idea as that
sounded? What would that mean? What are
the implications for my friends, family and especially my children, for those
who knew me as the guy in Undercover, an outspoken Christian songwriter,
performer, producer and evangelist who had led altar calls and worship from the
stage, started a bible study and became the figurehead for a Christian record
label? What would that mean for my fate
and destiny, an excruciating question because it can never be answered
definitively, which is enough to drive many to avoid it altogether?
My identity had been so wrapped up in my faith that I now
felt dissociated, without a rooted sense of recognizable self, even though in a
strange way I felt I was more myself than I had been in years. I had no context for what life would be like
without religious belief anymore than I had a context for a daily routine
without cigarettes. Smokers and former
smokers know what I mean. Former believers know what I mean too. Many people
simply live on in their dissonance between what they feel they need to believe
and what we know makes sense because they cannot imagine a context or an
identity without faith. Richard Dawkins, hinted at this when he was asked if he
had any friends who are believers. He
answered, “I’m friendly with some
bishops and vicars who kind of believe in something and enjoy the music and the
stained glass.”
Of course religion runs much deeper than cigarettes and this
helps me understand the surprising reactions of others to my dismissal of
faith. The range of those reactions and their intensity never ceases to surprise
me. There are too many to list here, but
I do keep a collection of the more interesting ones. There is one that keeps coming up in
different forms much more than any other, from the somewhat reasonable and
generous to the more judgmental, and that’s the one I want to address - not so
much to answer, but to try to understand it.
Sadness
So many artists from earlier days in the Christian scene who
have since abandoned or radically altered their former belief system tend to be
far more bitter and antagonistic towards Christians who have "stayed the
course," for lack of a better phrase, and I appreciate your gentleness and
civility in being the opposing side to the discussion, though I confess you'll
have to forgive me for being saddened at where your journey has thus far led
you. I still appreciate you, and your body of work that was such a source of
inspiration to us as young adults.
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But for me, to think of anyone being without the Jesus of
Scripture as a living Presence in their lives is not just sad, it is a tragedy.
And for someone to have once known that Presence and not know it any longer...
can you see how I would think that is not just a tragedy, but a horrific
tragedy? As someone who appreciates
reason, Ojo, I think you'll see the reasonableness of this: If the Jesus Story
as recorded by Scripture is true, and you reject it, your story is a tragedy.
If the Jesus Story is false, and I embrace it, that too is a tragedy... esp.
because truth in my life was the mainspring behind my intense search for (or
subverting of) belief in God.
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I would no sooner read leftist propaganda from the
Huffington Post than you would Truth from God's Word. Still can't believe I'm
talking to "Ojo" from Undercover. (name
withheld) had warned me, but It's just
very sad to me. I'm pretty sure you won't want me to, but I'm going to make it
a point to pray that God will soften your heart and draw you back to Himself.
You obviously have a dysfunctional relationship with your Father (whose gifts
and callings are without repentance)."
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They were once the favorite band of my 86 y/o mother. When I
let her read some of Ojoes [sic] essays about atheism and agnostism [sic], she broke down and cried.
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And so it goes. There are simply too many people who have
this response to call it an anomaly. But
notice that while they all express sadness, nobody explains why they are sad, what they are actually
sad for. I have asked and asked without
result. I can only come up with a few
possibilities.
First is the belief that I have fallen or have been harmed
somehow. Maybe they are sad for me
personally. But I have not lost a limb
or been diagnosed with cancer, I have not lost a loved one (recently) or
anything like that. Most people don’t realize what they’re really suggesting is
that I am, contrary to my own assessment of my own life, somehow worse off as a
result of my journey! What is there to be saddened about? I’ve said many times that
my life is better in every way since
I have left orthodoxy - every single way, including my mission as a music professor
and artist. Some religious people just cannot bring themselves to imagine that
possibility, because of what that might mean. But for me it’s absolutely true. In
what sense has my life been harmed, or is it now being squandered, or wasted?
Second is the possibility that the sadness
is not about my life here, but about other-worldly stuff like forgiveness of
sins, life or torment in the hereafter, spiritual warfare, relationships with
heavenly hosts of one kind or another, basically all things which, once alleged,
end the conversation. As Delos McKown says, “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike,” and there
is just nowhere to go with all that stuff. If the
supernatural has no observable effect on the natural world, the only world we
know, then why even talk about it? Even still though, what would there be
to possibly be sad about?
This is the angle the second comment above
seems to be making, an over-simplified variation of Pascal’s wager. If the Jesus story of the Bible is true and I
do not accept it, it is a tragedy (for some reason, presumably eternal
damnation because in this life his is no richer than mine), just as it would be
for him if it was not true. Life is
wasted in either case. But the same
could be said of any of the world’s religions!
If the Allah story of the Quran is true, is it not also a tragedy as
well for those who do not believe it? Or
if the Jesus story of the Westboro Baptists is true, is that also a tragedy for
those who do not embrace it? Most
American Christians have no problem dismissing these out of hand, but are genuinely
dismayed when their own Jesus story and all that goes with it are similarly
dismissed. I understand that everyone thinks only their own religion is
unequivocally true and the others heretical or worse, but none are any more
convincing than another on the merits of evidence.
Again I have to ask though, where is the cause
for sadness? Is it because I will be
going to hell? If so, the conversation
ends there. Hell, even though it is
alleged to be real and thus should be detectable exists only in the realm of
faith. Even if I concede that point, why
so sad that I am going to hell but not equally or even more sad that certainly
members of one’s own family, certain friends, or billions of the world’s
children of God are going there too? Why
not then live in perpetual and infinite sadness for the loss of all those souls?
How can anyone even manage to get out of bed every morning under this heavy
weight without being skeptical or apathetic?
Perhaps this sadness is on behalf of Jesus.
Some have suggested that to move away from Orthodoxy is to break the heart of
God. There is no need for sadness! To any living, loving deities that may
exist, Jesus, any, I am a resounding and unequivocal “Yes!” I call out to love,
cry out with open arms for any way I can know and relate as intimately as I
can! I hold no ill will or malice against any possible benevolent deity and
mean no harm at all. Even physicist and renowned atheist Victor Stenger writes
that the honest unbeliever must acknowledge the possibility of God’s existence
if real evidence ever shows up. Heaven
has kept its secrets well, so while I am open, I am left in the absence of any evidence
to stumble along on my own, doing the best I can imperfectly with what I have
at my disposal. I simply will not and cannot just take on faith what I know is
not true or what I even suspect is not true, what we have learned is not
true. If there is “sin” it is that, the
denial of my conscience, my heart, and yes, my intellect too.
Instead, maybe the most likely and also the most dangerous
explanation for sadness might be the idea that I am no longer “part of the team.” All that stuff I mentioned earlier, a founder
of Undercover, Christian songwriter, performer, producer and evangelist who had
led altar calls and worship from the stage, bible study leader and Christian
record label figurehead and owner, has now all been tossed aside apparently; or
not.
My band has been my closest community and in many ways it
still is. It has been the platform and
chronicle for so much of my personal journey as an artist and a man. Some of the music I’ve written, especially in
the early years is immature, but lots of it still has deep meaning for me. The band, the music, the songs and concerts
have been meaningful for our audience as well, a sort of rite of passage for us
all and the basis of magnificent relationships with many people. How many great artists have I been able to
produce as owner of a label, providing a channel for their music and to have
their own voices heard! What grounds are
there to be sad about any of this, and what is there to be sad about,
exactly?
Is my dismissal of faith sad because I am no longer doing
that stuff anymore, or actively working to fulfill my part of the Great
Commission and build the kingdom of God?
If so, is life really that utilitarian?
Is that the source of meaning for a human life? Is it like a sporting
event where once people cheered but now they mourn because this is somehow a
hit to the team; one of the players has been traded? In what way is my life
now, as a father, a musician, and a professor any less useful in real and
observable ways to the lives I come in contact with?
Let’s look at it another way. What does it really mean to be “part of the
team” anyway? What team am I no longer
part of that requires sadness? If it means I no longer share the same beliefs
and the worldview that comes with them, then you’ve got me there. Is that
really a reason to be sad? In what
observable way does that have any negative impact at all?
Instead, how about the idea that “the team” consists of all
human beings and that our highest mission and calling is to learn and practice
love and kindness to all? What if that
was the over-arching taxonomy by which we classify people and the measure of
their lives rather than by their profession of faith? Wouldn’t sadness vanish
instantly? Does faith prevent this
worldview? What is sad to me is that it often does! Are love and kindness exclusively realized or
perhaps fully realized only by believers, through your faith and creed? Are you able to entertain the idea that there
are people who hold wildly different views than yours or no supernatural views
at all and still enjoy the exact same status before your God as you, perhaps
even a higher status? If not, please
ponder what that means for a moment, especially regarding the way you esteem
others and ultimately treat them.
So you see, I have asked myself many questions trying to
understand the idea that somehow because I am no longer a Christian that there
is a reasonable basis for sadness that is rooted in some kind of virtuous
fortitude. This is not about me. Most of
these people do not know me or the intimate circumstances of my life. It is about their own worldview and outlook
on humanity and the way their own faith responds, and that is what my questions
here are meant to explore. The answers have more to say about the mourners and
their beliefs than it does the disposition of my life and soul.
It is not easy taking a hard look at our own beliefs. Changing them is even harder. It’s like losing a best friend. There is no
need to be sad. Rejoice! For behold I bring you good tidings of great
joy! We can grow past the obstacles that religion so often throws in our paths.
We can know some things about the world and not worry about what it does to our
doctrine. We can transcend ideological positions and the requirement for
correct beliefs and thought policing, becoming better human beings, more loving
and less divisive. We can learn to see the connectedness of all peoples of any
creed or station. We can know the
fullness of the human experience and realize our full potential, unfettered and
unencumbered with having to run things through a religious filter!
Our identity truly does depend on our beliefs. We struggle for context when we consider our
own doubts and what it might mean if our doubts have teeth. Coming to terms with that would indeed be much
harder than redefining a life without cigarettes. Smokers, former smokers and former
believers know what I mean. I wrote this a while ago:
I also want to show people, especially people who believe
there is no alternative, that there is in fact a very robust, beautiful and
whole alternative to faith. For me that alternative has made all the difference
in my life. I am happier, things make much more sense, I feel I have a better
moral foundation, I feel life is much more meaningful, I love more fully and
deeply.
That is certainly nothing to be sad
about. Have I missed other
possibilities? If you are one who has
the same reaction of sadness to others leaving the faith, what is it exactly
that you are sad about?
6 comments:
"Most American Christians have no problem dismissing these [other religions] out of hand, but are genuinely dismayed when their own Jesus story and all that goes with it are similarly dismissed. I understand that everyone thinks only their own religion is unequivocally true and the others heretical or worse, but none are any more convincing than another on the merits of evidence."
Love this quote from the article... and I think it is one that can only be grasped once you are outside your faith. To those still within a faith there is a "yeah, but" response. The can make an intellectual assent to it to a certain degree, but they can't let go of the "reality" that THEIR belief remains different from the myriad of others.
Very interesting piece. I grew up in SoCal listening to all the Christian bands out there. I feel sad when I run into people from that time and they are still living in that world. (anytime an Undercover plays a gig you see them all there) By that world I am not referring to faith but the world of 1988 Calvary Chapel/God Rules culture. The reason Ojo gives for leaving the faith seem to be rooted in what it does for him and how much sense it makes. There is a different and more accurately historical reason to live the life of faith that what it does for me.
Christianity, and for that matter most ancient religions, historically call you to faith because of some sort of God figure who is due worship. Now that mainstream Christianity appeals to a better life, happier life, comfort or some self serving reason as a reason to believe Im surprised that anyone at all stays in the church! I am a Christian who believes in the truth of Christianity but who also had to say goodbye to some "old friends" like evangelicalism and arrogance before I could feel comfortable in my Christian skin.
A quiet ovation from here! Quite possibly the most level-headed, clearest essay I have read on the topic, and one that I hope more of the believers that I know will read and take to heart. I don't feel sadness for them believing, and I wish they would not feel it for me because I have serious doubts.
Bravo!
This is very interesting because I grew up not really following faith and seeing where it brought me..... it brought me to read a ton of spirituality books.... it brought me to try some drugs..... it eventually brought me to have no foundation or support in friendships or relationships.... and now I see the life of faith as the only thing that could ever sustain a marriage or family..... prayer is powerful, healing, and brings God into situations we would normally try and figure out on our own and continue to fumble around in.... outside of christianity all I see is self serving... whether it be sensual, sexual, or the path of trying to attain something of a status in this life..... I feel sad for anyone who doesn't have Jesus.... when I say that I mean have a God who will not only talk with you and teach you in prayer.... but has his word to help correct you from corruptible behavior.... without it I'm lost, and I do believe its the same for anyone else...... but there is always the story of the prodigal son..... and that's just more revelation..... I think I see its true because I've lived in the dark for so long..... but when someone grows up in the church and that's all they know, I guess they always wonder what will happen if they eat the apple..... God has his ways.... and they are beyond ours..... I'm grateful for the truth I see..... and everyone has their own path..... I do think it helps to pray for those who fall away from the Lord, but after he brought me back I realized he had me even when I thought he was gone....... once again.... Gods ways are way too much for us to understand..... I always appreciate honesty from someone no matter what they believe..... but I do believe the bible to be the truth and Jesus to be exactly who he says he is.....
I also want to add that you mentioned that you don't want people to feel sad for you..... well I can see many reasons why they would...... but you see people do fall away.... and in those times it calls christians to pray for them..... its part of how we move and breath as a body..... and I want to mention one thing.... apart from christianity..... is there any practice besides prayer that brings you all together in one heart??? most spiritualities lead you to seek an enlightenment of your own.... praying together in the name of Jesus is powerful..... praying into now where with no one to me just makes someone more alone..... this is all I've found.... and about the evidence of what makes christianity more likely to be the real one way that is the only one way is the fact that Jesus is the only enlightened man to live who said he was truly God's son.... the one and only..... and then he rose from the dead..... I mean.... I can't deny that.... no one else did that.... and he's the only anchor into a possible absolute truth that saves the soul.... going into relevant truth lets everyone believe what they feel like believing and you have no anchor as to where you are headed..... i.e. now headed toward oblivian or wherever mans intelligence can take us..... and that to me is scary..... and without judgement or reason to remain moral.... then you can see how there really is no more reason to..... why not do whatever if there is no one to answer to.... and maybe you aren't at this point....... yet..... but just think about many who are....... apart from the Ten commandments and the saving grace of Jesus..... we are in sodom and Ghamorra sexually why stay faithful to a wife or anyone else for that matter.... where's the anchor where's the discipline?? I'm just putting some ideas out there..... Without God.... we fall..... going away from a living God that is invisible and loves us is just going back to an idol.... what to worship now.... if not the God of love and forgiveness.... I guess a statue, or a car.... or meditation, or sexuality, or being a God myself..... but in reality..... do any of these have a promise of salvation, and eternal life with a loving and just creator...... the bible answers all questions..... the other books just give processes to try and attain something...... I was raised catholic.... that did not teach me or help me understand how to have a relationship with God, or show me how amazing and alive the word of God is.... God did bring me to this and show it to me..... everything else I found on my own...... so my question is this..... did you grow up in the church??? because if you did.... you may be just like anyone else out there who hasn't really had a living experience with Jesus Christ..... you may have just been going through the motions..... so prayer and hope for you is that you would call to Jesus.... and ask for him to show himself real..... because if you had him spiritually as a God and father to you everyday in prayer...... its hard for me to see how you could all of a sudden believe his existence a fable..... maybe you only experienced the motions of the church and never really knew Jesus??? I'm just rolling with what is coming to me..... only here to help..... Take care.....
I find it laughable and ridiculous that the person who dismissed much of what you said and instead witnessed what you have already learned, needs to do it anonymously.
Two things (I could say much more)... 1) How can heaven be heaven and be a wonderful healthy place to be if any of your loved ones go to hell and not heaven? That is sick.
2) went sadnesses instead of horror and terror that someone is going to hell. How pathetic. It is shallow lacking of thoughts of deeper things.
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