tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5310981.post4782019536475309734..comments2024-03-04T07:45:15.155-07:00Comments on Hackman's Musings: Facebook Faith #23 - Why Millennials Are REALLY Leaving the ChurchAndrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494823779999456396noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5310981.post-5746816826591283122013-07-30T11:55:03.426-06:002013-07-30T11:55:03.426-06:00It is true Evans is addressing Christians and not ...It is true Evans is addressing Christians and not non-Christians. It's easy to figure out why non-believers leave the church. The quandary is why believers leave, which is what Evans addresses in her blog.<br /><br />Re: Andrew's comment "every side of Christianity wants to tell you "what Jesus and the Bible really teach." <br /><br />I don't know what side of Christianity Andrew has seen, Andrew, but there are several sides of Christianity that admit we're struggling to figure it all out as best we can like everybody else. I fear people who tell me they have the right answer, as if there's only one and they've cornered it. There are at least as many answers as there are questions and probably more. Evan's blog is one answer to a persistent questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5310981.post-22944700640933930562013-07-29T01:27:40.355-06:002013-07-29T01:27:40.355-06:00That's an interesting article! I like the bit...That's an interesting article! I like the bit at the end where she says that after articles like that she always gets messages from Gen Xers or Baby Boomers saying "me too!". She's saying young people leave the church because its faith is so narrow and doesn't seem genuine. I read recently about some research (I think it was from the UK) which identifies three main reasons for leaving the church, each of roughly equivalent importance - intellectual doubts about the faith, bad experiences of the church (as in, abuse or hypocrisy, not lack of cool) and personal trauma (eg illness, death of a partner). <br /><br />Neils Bohr is supposed to have said "prediction is extremely difficult, especially about the future". So I'm content to wait and see whether the faith dies out, and in the meantime do what I can to help renew it. However, many in the mission world point to the fact that as the church shrinks in the West it grows rapidly in Africa and Asia. They suggest that the church may well become moribund in Europe and North America (and Australia!) and then be renewed from the third world.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11272544252649766985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5310981.post-5126129918110024182013-07-27T19:21:25.926-06:002013-07-27T19:21:25.926-06:00Thanks for this post, it is insightful indeed. I w...Thanks for this post, it is insightful indeed. I would like to suggest we differentiate between "God is dead/irrelevant" and "Church/Religion is dead/irrelevant". If we can assume the latter, then the former becomes a non-issue because anyone can define God as they please. My wish would be for any and all authoritarianism to cease, be it religious or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5310981.post-18467330121954495972013-07-27T16:51:20.754-06:002013-07-27T16:51:20.754-06:00Bruce - I want to see that round table. :)
That i...Bruce - I want to see that round table. :)<br /><br />That is my problem with Wallis and most of the Christian Left.... every side of Christianity wants to tell you what "What Jesus and the Bible really teach", when in doing so, they end up castrating half the text.<br /><br />Steve - I don't think the focus is "god is dead" as much as god is irrelevant. I recognize that the vast majority are still believers, but it only takes one generation for a major upheaval and I think that generation is developing. When you and I were kids, everyone we knew was a believer. If we knew kids outside our church, those kids at least went to church. Church was assumed.<br /><br />We had no source for alternate opinions to any degree... young people today have scores of sources for contrary views. I do not expect this generation of believers to start abandoning their faith in droves... but they are a little less convinced than their parents were... and they are a little less likely to indoctrinate. <br /><br />More of the kids growing up now are going to be coming up without a set faith... and every statistic shows, there is little chance they will develop it as an adult. There will be no dramatic deaths amongst the deities. They will just fade from use like my old palm pilot or Windows 98.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494823779999456396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5310981.post-5914286532670637412013-07-27T15:10:16.352-06:002013-07-27T15:10:16.352-06:00Andy,
The "God is dead" mantra has been...Andy,<br /><br />The "God is dead" mantra has been around for a long time along with the idea that religions will eventually be nothing more than small fringe cult groups. I think you confuse a new environment (only in the West) where atheists feel freer to champion their beliefs with a "movement". The reality is that Rachel Held Evans discourse will continue to have meaning to a majority of Americans because a majority of Americans are people of faith...and will continue to be so. Steve H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09428882214098606433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5310981.post-57537734053727540652013-07-27T13:54:35.800-06:002013-07-27T13:54:35.800-06:00Great observation, Andrew. I think you are spot o...Great observation, Andrew. I think you are spot on. <br /><br />I watched Jim Wallis on Bill Maher's show last night. I love Wallis but he repeatedly ignored or sidestepped the hard questions that Maher was asking. Any question that didn't fit Wallis's paradigm was ignored. <br /><br />It is these questions that will ultimately strangle the life out of Christianity. (Or at least result in a spiritual form of Christianity totally disconnected from the Bible and church history)Brucenoreply@blogger.com